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		<title>By: Faisal Iqbal</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-1522</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal Iqbal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 13:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a requirement please suggest CRM and expected cost.

1.	Telecommunication implementation which has 30+ million active subscribers. 
2.	Offers Mobile (Primary) + Landline, GPRS, GSM, Broadband and other. 
3.	Every Technical Element in Physical network is managed by Order Management in CRM.
4.	Billing System is integrated with CRM in Real time.
5.	Product Catalogue managed in CRM has 1000+ product combinations possible.
6.	75 k expected daily Orders
7.	1500 Customer care users with CTI integrated CRM at any instant of the day
8.	CRM Database space is 8 Tera

9.	Sales + Service + Marketing and Business Analytics working on same data. Data warehouse also contains network usage data (SMS/users, Calls in particular night) 

10.	Business Analytics will be used for creating campaigns and Analyzing responses

11.	Two competitors (Global companies) creating stiff competition 

Regards,
Faisal Iqbal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a requirement please suggest CRM and expected cost.</p>
<p>1.	Telecommunication implementation which has 30+ million active subscribers.<br />
2.	Offers Mobile (Primary) + Landline, GPRS, GSM, Broadband and other.<br />
3.	Every Technical Element in Physical network is managed by Order Management in CRM.<br />
4.	Billing System is integrated with CRM in Real time.<br />
5.	Product Catalogue managed in CRM has 1000+ product combinations possible.<br />
6.	75 k expected daily Orders<br />
7.	1500 Customer care users with CTI integrated CRM at any instant of the day<br />
8.	CRM Database space is 8 Tera</p>
<p>9.	Sales + Service + Marketing and Business Analytics working on same data. Data warehouse also contains network usage data (SMS/users, Calls in particular night) </p>
<p>10.	Business Analytics will be used for creating campaigns and Analyzing responses</p>
<p>11.	Two competitors (Global companies) creating stiff competition </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Faisal Iqbal</p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-1434</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve found an organisation called Servage who apparently have a groundbreaking service. It’s always hard to tell whether something is going to take off, especially with so much hype but the landing page looks cool! http://www.servage.com/. Have checked out their Twitter page (twitter.com/totalcloud)but seems they are waiting for the launch before tweeting their own news.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve found an organisation called Servage who apparently have a groundbreaking service. It’s always hard to tell whether something is going to take off, especially with so much hype but the landing page looks cool! <a href="http://www.servage.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.servage.com/</a>. Have checked out their Twitter page (twitter.com/totalcloud)but seems they are waiting for the launch before tweeting their own news&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Nauman</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-1273</link>
		<dc:creator>Nauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that Siebel on-demand is not a strong competitor as compared to sales force but after Oracle acquisition, Siebel has a strong future. Oracle has acquired Sun, so may be future development of Siebel will be done on Java, making Siebel more flexible. But Oracle has to do a lot to make Siebel stronger, as after Siebel 7.7, no major change has done in Siebel, apart from Oracle Logo.

Siebel would have long gone, but Oracle has saved it. Previously major implementations of Siebel were in US and Europe, now it has gained market in Asia and Middle East, due to strong presence of Oracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that Siebel on-demand is not a strong competitor as compared to sales force but after Oracle acquisition, Siebel has a strong future. Oracle has acquired Sun, so may be future development of Siebel will be done on Java, making Siebel more flexible. But Oracle has to do a lot to make Siebel stronger, as after Siebel 7.7, no major change has done in Siebel, apart from Oracle Logo.</p>
<p>Siebel would have long gone, but Oracle has saved it. Previously major implementations of Siebel were in US and Europe, now it has gained market in Asia and Middle East, due to strong presence of Oracle.</p>
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		<title>By: win a netbook</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>win a netbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 23:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel I should say, I enjoy this site. Could let me know how I can subscribing with it? I feel I should let you know I found this blog through Aol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel I should say, I enjoy this site. Could let me know how I can subscribing with it? I feel I should let you know I found this blog through Aol.</p>
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		<title>By: Alok Misra</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>Alok Misra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 21:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can remember my Deloitte and PwC days, where a multimillion dollar services opportunity related to implementing and maintaining Siebel used to get our juices flowing. So I can certainly see how Siebel is still generating cash for some and I think that&#039;s great. However, as Sam points out, few want to spend money these days on multi-million engagements -- unless, of course, you are MTA in New York. MTA gave $200m to Lockheed Martin to implement a subway security system and got nothing but a lawsuit in return.

Mike (Davis), to your question, there is some competition always in the tech industry. Here&#039;s a good blog on that:

http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/platform-vendors-have-to-be-switzerland/

Salesforce.com has done a phenomenal job of marketing their CRM and platform to the world. Their product managers today are primarily focused on how to put Force.com in the hands of Java developers. Navatar&#039;s product managers are focused on how to improve and enhance operations for the investment management community. Although few can predict the future, our goals are very different and complementary.

Also, here is a good discussion related this blog, that I thought I&#039;d highlight:

http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-computing/browse_thread/thread/4098f7caa2a16b4a#

Here are some good points made, that are worth a mention (I tokk the liberty of extracting some quotes):

...I do agree with you that &quot;shy attempts&quot; to transition the software delivery model to the cloud without rethinking the whole business model is doomed to failure...
    -  Fabrice Cathala    

...There is a significant difference in skill set between burning CDs and operating a large datacenter 24/365 globally.....This is going to be a painful ride for incumbents and their ecosystems. The ones that embrace SaaS aggressively, soon, have a chance. The rest will become the Burroughs, DEC or Wang of this generation.
-      Ray Nugent

...there are additional protectors of legacy within small, medium and large enterprise - real IT departments whose employees have kids to feed and put through colllege. The larger the enterprise, the more intransigent the IT department is to moving from legacy. Change is painful and represents a potential career-threatening move for the pioneer within the IT department who presents a vision that may ultimately not be realized....
-     Dave Corley

...It&#039;s very hard for existing vendors to incur the chance of losing revenue in their existing market to move in a timely fashion to a new opportunity... Cloud Computing is likely to enable a new set of vendors and change many in  the older set from market leaders to legacy maintainers...
-     Amy Wohl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can remember my Deloitte and PwC days, where a multimillion dollar services opportunity related to implementing and maintaining Siebel used to get our juices flowing. So I can certainly see how Siebel is still generating cash for some and I think that&#8217;s great. However, as Sam points out, few want to spend money these days on multi-million engagements &#8212; unless, of course, you are MTA in New York. MTA gave $200m to Lockheed Martin to implement a subway security system and got nothing but a lawsuit in return.</p>
<p>Mike (Davis), to your question, there is some competition always in the tech industry. Here&#8217;s a good blog on that:</p>
<p><a href="http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/platform-vendors-have-to-be-switzerland/" rel="nofollow">http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/platform-vendors-have-to-be-switzerland/</a></p>
<p>Salesforce.com has done a phenomenal job of marketing their CRM and platform to the world. Their product managers today are primarily focused on how to put Force.com in the hands of Java developers. Navatar&#8217;s product managers are focused on how to improve and enhance operations for the investment management community. Although few can predict the future, our goals are very different and complementary.</p>
<p>Also, here is a good discussion related this blog, that I thought I&#8217;d highlight:</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-computing/browse_thread/thread/4098f7caa2a16b4a#" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-computing/browse_thread/thread/4098f7caa2a16b4a#</a></p>
<p>Here are some good points made, that are worth a mention (I tokk the liberty of extracting some quotes):</p>
<p>&#8230;I do agree with you that &#8220;shy attempts&#8221; to transition the software delivery model to the cloud without rethinking the whole business model is doomed to failure&#8230;<br />
    &#8211;  Fabrice Cathala    </p>
<p>&#8230;There is a significant difference in skill set between burning CDs and operating a large datacenter 24/365 globally&#8230;..This is going to be a painful ride for incumbents and their ecosystems. The ones that embrace SaaS aggressively, soon, have a chance. The rest will become the Burroughs, DEC or Wang of this generation.<br />
-      Ray Nugent</p>
<p>&#8230;there are additional protectors of legacy within small, medium and large enterprise &#8211; real IT departments whose employees have kids to feed and put through colllege. The larger the enterprise, the more intransigent the IT department is to moving from legacy. Change is painful and represents a potential career-threatening move for the pioneer within the IT department who presents a vision that may ultimately not be realized&#8230;.<br />
-     Dave Corley</p>
<p>&#8230;It&#8217;s very hard for existing vendors to incur the chance of losing revenue in their existing market to move in a timely fashion to a new opportunity&#8230; Cloud Computing is likely to enable a new set of vendors and change many in  the older set from market leaders to legacy maintainers&#8230;<br />
-     Amy Wohl</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Ortega</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Ortega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to learn about the 45 million Siebel adventure from Faisal. I&#039;m surprised they spend that much money in Pakistan. Here in America we don&#039;t spend those kind of dollars on anything anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to learn about the 45 million Siebel adventure from Faisal. I&#8217;m surprised they spend that much money in Pakistan. Here in America we don&#8217;t spend those kind of dollars on anything anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Techno-Pulse</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>Techno-Pulse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, the road ahead looks smooth for SaaS providers viz. Salesforce.com. In emerging economies like India, the market is quite price sensitive, &amp; there are 1000s of SMBs who will need software of some kind to compete globally. Here&#039;s a golden opportunity for the SaaS providers &quot;Fortune @ the Bottom of Pyramid&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, the road ahead looks smooth for SaaS providers viz. Salesforce.com. In emerging economies like India, the market is quite price sensitive, &amp; there are 1000s of SMBs who will need software of some kind to compete globally. Here&#8217;s a golden opportunity for the SaaS providers &#8220;Fortune @ the Bottom of Pyramid&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Klincewicz</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Klincewicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used Siebel at HP and Salesforce.com at Citrix.  I would not award either any prizes, but given a choice, I&#039;d take Salesforce.  I think Siebel would be fine for selling refrigerators or forklifts.   

For multi-part software-hardware-and services SKUs it was not very flexible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used Siebel at HP and Salesforce.com at Citrix.  I would not award either any prizes, but given a choice, I&#8217;d take Salesforce.  I think Siebel would be fine for selling refrigerators or forklifts.   </p>
<p>For multi-part software-hardware-and services SKUs it was not very flexible.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Davis</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-892</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alok,

Your post is timely.  I work for a small venture firm that is looking at cloud solutions to manage our fundraising and investor relations.  In our research, we came across Navatar as well as Salesforce.com’s venture capital solution.  Even though you’re a Salesforce.com partner, doesn’t that put the two of you at odds?  It’s not inconceivable to think you might someday be “designed out” by Saleforces.com – a phenomenon I’ve witnessed between Microsoft and its partners.

Curious to learn more.  Thanks for your insight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alok,</p>
<p>Your post is timely.  I work for a small venture firm that is looking at cloud solutions to manage our fundraising and investor relations.  In our research, we came across Navatar as well as Salesforce.com’s venture capital solution.  Even though you’re a Salesforce.com partner, doesn’t that put the two of you at odds?  It’s not inconceivable to think you might someday be “designed out” by Saleforces.com – a phenomenon I’ve witnessed between Microsoft and its partners.</p>
<p>Curious to learn more.  Thanks for your insight</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal Iqbal</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal Iqbal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salesforce.com can reduce the share of Siebel in Small and medium enterprises but killing Siebel CRM is a very big word.
I know a 45 million Dollar Siebel CRM implementation in Pakistan. salesforce.com need years to achieve that in pakistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salesforce.com can reduce the share of Siebel in Small and medium enterprises but killing Siebel CRM is a very big word.<br />
I know a 45 million Dollar Siebel CRM implementation in Pakistan. salesforce.com need years to achieve that in pakistan</p>
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		<title>By: Osama</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>Osama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I strongly believe that no doubt the cloud computing model has overcame the on premise market, but still the current market of on premise version will be maintained. There is not as such mature CRM product like Siebel. I think most of the people would agree on that.

Small and Medium scale companies will surely go into the cloud computing market and buy these on demand CRM models like Salesforce.com, Oracle CRM On Demand or evern Sugar CRM. But the large enterprises such as Banks havent been seen selecting on demand products. They still work on on premise version like Siebel. Companies that are more worried about their data, will hesitate a bit in moving to cloud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I strongly believe that no doubt the cloud computing model has overcame the on premise market, but still the current market of on premise version will be maintained. There is not as such mature CRM product like Siebel. I think most of the people would agree on that.</p>
<p>Small and Medium scale companies will surely go into the cloud computing market and buy these on demand CRM models like Salesforce.com, Oracle CRM On Demand or evern Sugar CRM. But the large enterprises such as Banks havent been seen selecting on demand products. They still work on on premise version like Siebel. Companies that are more worried about their data, will hesitate a bit in moving to cloud.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Siegert</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Siegert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael is no doubt right that Siebel is a cash cow.  Just like Lotus Notes is probably a cash cow.

Regardless, Siebel&#039;s future was crushed by salesforce.com.  It&#039;s now a dead man walking but, as Michael points out, still earning a nice living off legacy contracts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael is no doubt right that Siebel is a cash cow.  Just like Lotus Notes is probably a cash cow.</p>
<p>Regardless, Siebel&#8217;s future was crushed by salesforce.com.  It&#8217;s now a dead man walking but, as Michael points out, still earning a nice living off legacy contracts.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Topalovich</title>
		<link>http://blog.cloudnavatar.com/financial/cloud-computing-killed-siebel-will-you-be-next/comment-page-1/#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Topalovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d go so far as to say salesforce.com &quot;crushed&quot; Siebel.  Salesforce.com just had their first $1 billion year after 10 years in business, Siebel was a $2 billion company that still maintained a huge market share advantage at the time of the Oracle acquisition.  I haven&#039;t looked into current numbers, but I would wager that the integrated Siebel assets still generate significantly more revenue than salesforce.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d go so far as to say salesforce.com &#8220;crushed&#8221; Siebel.  Salesforce.com just had their first $1 billion year after 10 years in business, Siebel was a $2 billion company that still maintained a huge market share advantage at the time of the Oracle acquisition.  I haven&#8217;t looked into current numbers, but I would wager that the integrated Siebel assets still generate significantly more revenue than salesforce.com.</p>
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